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UPDATED: Verizon FiOS TV heavily targeting apartments, condos in O.C. and more

October 16th, 2008, 4:34 pm · 16 Comments · posted by Tamara Chuang, a.k.a. The Gadgetress

**UPDATED** Added some clarifications from Verizon. Also, earlier, added multi-family properties in Orange County and Southern California that offer FiOS TV. See below. 

Verizon has faced a ton of hurdles in the three years it’s been rolling out FiOS TV, an alternative-to-cable TV service. And one of the toughest areas to infiltrate has been apartments, condos, high-rises and other multi-family dwellings.

People living in multi-unit buildings can’t just order the service from Verizon even if they see fliers and billboards everywhere in their city. Verizon needs permission from the building’s owner or condo assocation to even offer it. 

But Eric Cevis, vice president of Verizon Enhanced Communities, said that his team is working hard to get that permission with incentives. It’s also getting easier to persuade owners to let Verizon in because consumers are more aware of FiOS’s TV service and high-speed Internet of up to 50 megabits per second. 

One reason is legal: The FCC banned apartment owners  (here’s the official FCC release) and condo associations from granting a single TV service exclusive rights to offer TV to residents. This was done to cut the cable TV companies’ lock on multi-family dwellings and allow alternatives like satellite TV and now, Internet-based TV such as Verizon’s FiOS and AT&T’s U-Verse.

But other reasons that his job is getting easier include increased awareness among the community plus stepped-up marketing efforts by Cevis’ team. FiOS even has a site dedicated to “enhanced communities” to show the value of adding FiOS by offering reports and videos to owners and developers. His team cold calls owners, hangs fliers on doors and has made FiOS an amenity alongside wireless Internet and hot tubs in those free apartment-shopper guides

“In 2005, that number (of owners that said no) was probably in the double digits percent, but I would say today, it’s around the high single digits,” Cevis said. “When they find out that we’re paying for the wired upgrade for free and willing to share the revenue model, they’re willing to talk.”

After getting permission, Verizon must physically dig up the ground to lay fiber-optic cables right to the building. And then, the company needs to sell the service to tenants. It’s figured out a sneaky way to get around the ‘exclusive’ ban. It offers to split revenue from sales with the building owner in exchange for an exclusive right to market its TV service to tenants, which isn’t the same as offering the service exclusively. Also, Verizon is offering incentives like flat-screen TVs to leasing agents who get new tenants to buy the service. 

Added, 10/17/08, a clarification by Verizon: The company wants me to point out that this ’sneaky way’ is an industry standard. Verizon isn’t being sneaky at all. All TV companies are trying to get exclusive marketing deals with buildings and even when they do, tenants still can choose to order whatever TV service they want.

After that, it takes up to 90 days for service to start.

Here in Orange County, the service hasn’t expanded much beyond the initial cities. Today, the service is available, more or less, in Fountain Valley, Garden Grove, Huntington Beach, La Habra, Lo Alamitos, Stanton, Westminster and some unincorporated areas of Orange County. 

** Update** I just got details on FiOS availability in O.C.: In Huntington Beach, four properties offer FiOS to tenants. There are more than 1,700 property owners and managers that offer FiOS to tenants in California, according to Verizon. But oddly, those building owners haven’t given Verizon permission to share their names. In HB, the sites that are marketing their FiOS amenity are:

  • Bridges - 16851 Nichols Street in Huntington Beach, CA
  • Hermosa Vista - 15363 Goldenwest Street in Huntington Beach, CA
  • Huntington Point - 18992 Florida Street in Huntington Beach, CA
  • Sher Lane - 16112 Sher Ln in Huntington Beach, CA

Verizon won’t say how many homes in O.C. can get FiOS. But in Southern California, it’ll be up to 1 million homes by the end of the year.  

For the rest of Southern California, the following properties also offer FiOS, according to Verizon:

  • Amanda Park - 24425 Skyview Ridge in Murrieta, CA
  • Lakeview - 107 S. Lewis St in Lake Elsinore, CA
  • Palo Verde - 44-720 Palo Verde in Indio, CA
  • Park Glen - 200 S. Glenn Drive in Camarillo, CA
  • Park Glenn Seniors - 200 S. Glenn Drive in Camarillo, CA
  • Emerald Place Apartments - 40300 Washington Street in Bermuda Dunes, CA.
  • Sierra Vista Apartments - 10558 Mountain View Ave in Redlands, CA.

FiOS TV now offers 102 high-defintition channels for Southern California, excluding any on-demand HD channels. Basic service with 295 channels starts around $48/month.

If you are wondering when Verizon will come to you, call 800-483-4000 or check the FiOS TV site and plug in your home address or phone number. Unfortunately, this only tells you about your address. If you’re in a FiOS community but your building owner or condo association hasn’t added FiOS, this site won’t tell you whether the process has been started, rejected or should easily qualify if you just ask the owners. 

As for the rest of O.C.?  Verizon is going after customers already living in its territory. So, if your telephone service is from Verizon, your neighborhood is on the list. Verizon has only offered FiOS to one city outside of its territory and that was in  Houston Dallas, Tex. 

“Of course, once we monetize the investment, we’ll expand outside the territory,” Cevis said. “We have not decided what the next year’s (expansion) will look like. We’re building out 2009 (plans) right now. We’ll see what, if any expected growth we’ll have in O.C. proper.”

With all this extra effort, Cevis hopes to have more than 1 million multi-family units eligible for FiOS by the end of the year. That’s up from 33,000 in 2005. But it’s still a long way to go. In the U.S., there are 17.5 million apartment units, according to the National Multi Housing Council.

One more clarification by Verizon: The 17.5 million apartments aren’t all in Verizon territory. Verizon’s FiOS Internet service is available in parts of 16 states (and D.C.) and FiOS TV is available in parts of 14 states (a video franchise needs to be obtained before Verizon can begin to offer TV service – the company is working with various municipalities on an ongoing basis to obtain these licenses).

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 16 Comments

  • gareeyph says:

    The FIOS Deal is very expensive. They sell you the triple-phone,internet and cable for $109 a month on a one or two year program, but by the time that they supply each tv witha mandatory box and and you add on a premium channel or two, it costs approximately $200 a month. Time Warner is a much better deal. After eight months of Verizon I’m going back to Time Warner

  • Ed Simon says:

    WOW! What is the FIOS deal? …Having a antenna on my roof for the pass 45 years had made TV service nice and free for me. Internet? Who needs it! There is nothing I can’t find in an Encyclopida that I can learn about. And Prono’s, come on people. That is what a VCR is for.

  • Crystal says:

    I’ve had the FIOS for almost a year and I love it…we dont pay $200 we pay about $130 a month which was a hundred lower than charter. The customer service is excellent and the incentive to join was great. I was leary of other companies because they couldnt guarantee a price for more than a year and that wasn’t good enough for me. My whole extended family now has Verizon and we are all happy.

  • Scottie says:

    Wow Crystal! Their customer service is excellent!!!?? So, how long have you been working for Verizon? Are you in their Marketing department?

  • Steve says:

    I’m confused here.
    I live in an apartment in Orange County and the management charges every resident $45 per month to access Time/Warner cable.
    This is in ADDITION to the monthly bill I receive from them. (Time /Warner)
    Am I missing something here????
    I also have the phone, internet and tv bundle, and I’m paying nearly $200 a month with only 1 premium channel, HBO.
    Something ain’t right!

  • Gadgetress says:

    Steve — Something definitely doesn’t sound right. By law, you can now opt for satellite and, if your landlord lets them in, Verizon FiOS (if you’re in Verizon territory). That $200 bill may be right but an extra $45 to your landlord sounds excessive. Send me the details about your landlord and cable bill and I’ll look into — thegadgetress@ocregister.com

  • ed simon says says:

    Ed Simom says “HEY YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!”

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  • Dave says:

    I don’t guess will be getting Verizon FiOS service in Laguna Niguel any time soon. Verizon can’t even figure out where we are. Try looking up a Laguna Niguel address at their web site: http://www.verizon.com/fiostv They will offer several alternative addresses in Menifee, CA, whereever that is. I’ve complained to them several times, but they don’t seem to care enough to get it fixed.

  • Steve says:

    Hey Dave,
    Menifee is out near Canyon Lake.
    I, like you, cannot get the Fios in Costa Mesa either, and my landlord is reaming me on my cable bill with Time/Warner.
    I’m seriously considering going the satellite route.
    Maybe that will eliminate the $45 a month charge I’m getting from the apartment managers. (maybe)
    Next it will be a satellite dish user fee. :-D

  • JohnB says:

    I’m stuck in AT&T land where they are using old copper lines to send slow data with no plans for any kind of speed-up. The whole U-Verse system is a joke, using old copper lines at DSL speeds to provide low quality TV and slow data.

    Please Verizon, find way to offer FIOS in Costa Mesa!

  • Stephen says:

    I tried Verizon FIOS and it is great—if you like spotty Internet service and a phone that only gives you a dial tone about 80% of the time (and an annoying high pich the rest of the time). Seriously, Verizon should be penalized for not testing and fixing their services before unleashing them on the public. Verizon should also inform customers that once your phone is switched to FIOS, they will NOT put it back on copper wire no matter how unreliable your FIOS service is! To give you an idea how bad Verizon FIOS is, I finally had enough, canceled my service and let them turn me over to collections. Screw good credit, I refuse to pay Verizon one dime. It’s too bad it came to that, but I’d rather have bad credit than pay Verizon for crappy service.

  • Gadgetress says:

    Stephen - I’m meeting with someone from FiOS on Friday.
    Feel free to e-mail me more specifics about your situation. — Gadgetress

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